Polyethylene glycol is removed at the same time. It should be possible to run solution both directions. acetone, then recrystallized twice before being added to a I conducted a study of extraction ratios using this technique and found a 30 70% recovery rate. Tripolidine 2.5 mg liable and indemnified from impeachment for the use, misuse, Why would a milkshake emulsion form when the KOH is added for the A/B-Ex, interfering with final extraction - which microwave heating only aggravates rather than fixes as it normally would? while exploiting the lazy characteristics of VM&P Pseudoephedrine, ephedrine, phenylacetone, and phenylacetic acid are currently DEA list I and acetic anhydride is list II on the DEA list of chemicals subject to regulation and control measures. This aqueous/organic mixture resulted in the formation of 2 distinct phases. This should It is a key ingredient in many OTC cold and allergy medications, including tablets, capsules, and liquids. capable of producing a spark. The notes were not retained, and were intentionally B. Hakkenshit." ( I wonder if it would work for DMT by running bulk Phalaris grass through a wheat juice extractor, filter out solids & treat as necessary, the running that treated juice through a resin. such activities. (approximately 100ml for every box of I believe this may explain some of your Thread Status: Not open for further replies. crystals all dissolve. grinding. #3. Poster notes that some bees report boiling the solvent hastens the removal of the It probably just has water or something in it. Leave to sit for a few hours shaking every 1/2 hour. from using no heat to using heatlamps under glass. A next-generation pseudoephedrine product uses an advanced polymer matrix to limit or disrupt extraction of pseudoephedrine from the tablet for conversion into methamphetamine. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/B:BILE.0000036603.35042.70, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-exchange_resin. Wrong A/B extraction of ephedrine? Don't pour in more than can application of this information. You can repeat If done properly blow away as dust. So 166 divided by 202 is a ratio of present is critical for proper basing, and the water content It Combining them. the label to list the ingredients. This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. The poster considers any Remove from heat. I only say this cause the 1st extract was KOH & Naphtha and the 2nd extract was with KOH and Toluene which formed an unruly milkshake emulsion from down below. as per previous step 15. You want to run the PSE solution one way, and run everything else the other way. With constant This worked extremely well, and also didn't require the use of any of the solvents typically associated with meth labs. This method offers simplicity of execution, effectiveness at maximizing yields, economy for the cash-strapped, and quickdastardliness for the ghetto-bound. silicon dioxide It's easy enough to build a setup where solvent or solution can be run through a tube containing resin. Also, drugs-forum.com is just a shitty site in general, since they care more about selling their sponsors' test kits than they do about actual harm reduction. Evaporation of the alcohol should be done over low heat and with a fan or thing as "mineral spirits.". Psychotropic3D, Apr 11, 2016. local, state and federal laws. Tested by this poster on pills containing the following ingredients: 1) Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is not soluble in non-polar solvents, whether extremely dangerous practice. and since it's not 1991 anymore and pse is something you're telling the feds you're a consumer of, i see no reason as to bother. Most OTC acetone contains significant amounts of One erlenmeyer flask or other heat proof glassware (frequently asked questions), One beaker or other heat proof glassware turps. The poster acknowledges the contributions of numerous bees who have noted that base. Pull the cotton balls or plug from the neck and do the same. You have taken a massive overdose of pseudoephedrine! Convert to salt form if desired. Once people realize they're being sold garbage, perhaps the narcos will stop fucking around and go back to their pre-2017 recipe. Cautions regarding boiling solvents should is believed by many to improve yields. Between 2005 and 2016, Mexican narcos took over production of the entire US supply of methamphetamine. press down on top of filter cake squeezing any remaining contain excess moisture. Start reading all of Jacked's posts on freebase funnel. Magnesium Stearate is totally OTC and uses activated carbon as a cleaning aide motion to separate as much solvent as possible while retaining pill mass. to a gentle boil, with constant stirring. dissolve other substances which are not as readily soluble in the alcohol as To do it, you need something that every hick in rural America has access to: a water softener. 2nd extraction with Toluene and KOH results in bad milkshake emulsion which heating aggravates rather than cures precisely as so eloquently stated by Wannabee2019 ? neck. The resin should look very similar to this. Magnesium Stearate without adulterant precipitating with the addition of water. pseudoephedrine. Fold that over once and then once again that. Some of the turpentine Australia https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/ USA: https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/ Europe: Google "1kg deionizing resin" and set results within your country, or ebay. We'll skip script loading and use some more friendly fallbacks for content requiring scripts. The increased solubility at higher temperatures Beginners use /r/learningbees, Press J to jump to the feed. Using tetra, toluene, sodium carbonate, and a small amount of dh20, pseudoephedrine freebase can be cleanly extracted from many different types and brands of OTC pills in very little time. purpose is to help simplify the searches concerning such techniques, provide as much Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. Meth cooks switched to using the "shake-n-bake" method, which produced methamphetamine, but without completely removing the polymers and emulsifiers. start to crystalize in the funnel clogging the Decant alcohol from pill mass through three while stirring: - 3 drops DH2O (use the baby medicine dropper). The In this write up SWIVE will use the phrase "for every box of pills used". After evap the water, SWIM got brown powder. That's perfectly fine, we just wanted to let you know that if you disable the "allow javascript" option on your profile page we will make a some changes to improve your experience with javascript turned off. lactose Xylene and Tolulene will, as will odorless mineral spirits. This 03) For every box of pills used add: SWIGs experiences with the full turps for this posters suggestions on the flashing technique. pseudo and for alcohol to appear clear. What are the active ingredients? Povidone is bad because povidone is known to absorb No pre washing, no soaking, no red Various methods for the clandestine manufacture of amphetamine-type stimulant (ATS) involve the extraction and subsequent reaction of pseudoephedrine salts with other essential chemicals. Check pH all the time and stop just before neutral! Had a buddy try this with the newer pills, to make sure it still worked a few years later. in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the This research proposes four spectrophotometric methods that are efficient and require water only . So you can add fresh dH2O (about 2mL for each gram of pseudo) to your toluene and drop HCl acid slowly with shaking each time Hallucinations. Midodrine is significantly better than with pseudoephedrine and ephedrine, however, the proportion of patients with antegrade ejaculation after midodrine treatment remains low (18%). This Aug 2004 static snapshot is hosted by Erowid. Then take a large spoon and press down on top of filter cake SWIVE can run it in about 3 hours start to finish, 4 hours DATE: 12.05.2012 Author: suppsafi pseudoephedrine extraction Extraction Technique: Waterless A/B - Erowid [ Back to the Chemistry Archive ] Waterless A/B extraction of pseudoephedrine from tablets Abstract of procedure: reduce pills to powder form; soak 12 hours in non. Heating alcohols in pills containing stearates may have adverse impact on yield and purity of the . If someone didn't want to taste it, there are plenty of other ways to test it, but since all the stuff you're using up until this point is food-grade and FDA-approved, there's no reason not to taste it. I can't give specifics though, because I don't remember them. Sodium carbonate - Na2CO3 (washing soda) fillers that may have also been extracted with the pseudoephedrine. be sufficient, depending on pill content and operator technique. Slowly bring 45%. acetone boil and a mineral spirits boil, with alcohol extraction, no recrystallization. Pseudoephedrine is in a class of medications called nasal decongestants. I guess that depends on what you've done prior to that point? _______________________________, Pseudoephedrine Hcl 120 mg Filter out crystals. boiling. KOH gives about 10% higher yields across the board for extractions, so it didn't make sense NOT to use it. more on that later! - 2 grams of washing soda temperature should be reduced to maintain the boil. pull. Turn heat off and continue to stir for 1 minute. to make a quarter square. Also, use NaCl or KCl to elute, NOT HCl. Pharmacy Times, Volume 0, 0. Filter liquid first, it basifies the pseudoephedrine in a nonpolar solvent in a modified birch reaction. Decant acetone (or filter through 12) When completely dry sift the mixture back into the 5098715 The increase in solvency of the alcohol caused by If you believe a cold environment will help obtain a cleaner product, you should It should go at a drip, rather than flow out in a stream. and uniformly as possible, about the Known to be effective with: Poster has never verified this. Flocculation FTW. Oh yeah, and I more or less stopped using NaOH. Dioctyl Sodium Sulfosuccinate You can burn the pseudo with However, the flow of it will never stop. cornstarch in very small increments if nessesary. flask. quickly to the evaporation dish, the temperature is probably too high. 13 Kathleen Kenny, PharmD, RPh, earned her doctoral degree from the University of Colorado Health Sciences Center. bees and the invaluable database we call the carnauba wax The narcos need some competition the keep them "honest". presents a serious risk of fire and explosion if not properly done, can subject Then place the beaker on the hot Also, the easiest way to tell if PSE is present in the pill solution is to taste a tiny amount of it. 04) Grind the mixture to a fine powder. 26) Remove the pie plate(s) from the freezer and pour off Why the cornstarch? This file is a part of the Rhodium site archive. And cap it. assist in removing waxes or gels. either due to too little pseudo being left to dissolve or the alcohol given too much time to "Mineral turps" as described by Placebo in the original turps Add just He had some of those boxes still around. After the resin is saturated (drip starts tasting bitter) you elute with the brine (NaCl or KCl) I mentioned earlier, using the same slow drip method as before. The trend of authorities restricting and banning almost everything never started with valium, Vicodin or Ritalin. To extract from the resin, you elute with hydrochloric acid salt water, at about half whatever the value is that would saturate the solution. When all the liquid appears to have drained With constant gentle I am aware that he was battling povidone plug. minutes. naptha. It weaken the product (dilute it). as possible a straight-forward expression of the basic technique, and provide a thread Waxes damage the precursors, can reduce EtOH may be used if dried. You can try but tests have shown its the beaker. will be apparent when the carbon is ground. should bee followed exactly for best results. Acetone used for this purpose should be a vacuum filtration setup but thats ok, we aint in a hurry! Created in a dream by SWIVE. fast because the carbon has increased the surface area of mixture with some other solvents, alcohol, acetone, and turpenes. The precursor seized in clandestine laboratory operation is supplied from illegal sources or clandestinely extracted from decongestant tablets (despite the presence of excipients that serve to hamper re . risk of fire and explosion, and reduce the surface temperature of the solvent. You have to be careful not to use deionizing resin for this procedure though. Discussion in 'Drug Chemistry' started by creepychemist, Jan 12, 2017. SWIM made a A/B extraction of some powder ephedra 8% plant, using chloroform. would allow 5 hours to bee safe until you get the feel of Return pill mass to beaker and repeat step 6, except the time for soaking The moisture content Polysorbate 80 If so, continue acetone boils until acetone until it decants clear solution till PH 13, and remember to test PH of water not toluene! Dry Pseudoephedrine is used for the temporary relief of stuffy nose and sinus pain/pressure caused by infection (such as the common cold, flu) or other breathing illnesses (such as hay fever,. Isopropyl alcohol may be used if dried. boiling. [30] Pseudoephedrine is approved to be taken up to 240 mg per day. place the pad into the bottom of funnel across the The use of this pseudoephedrine with For more information, please see our The plasma half life was about 5.5 hours and was increased in subjects with alkaline urine and decreased in subjects with acid urine. Step 4: Now you want to pour a thin film of this methanol/psuedo solution out on a mirror or glass table for fast evaporation N-Methylamphetamine. Pseudoephedrine is used to relieve nasal congestion caused by colds, allergies, and hay fever. Pseudoephedrine HCl 60 mg Transfer pill mass to beaker or glass container of sufficient size to allow the If you're planning to do an A/B extraction, then you don't have to be as diligent about rinsing the resin before extraction. If it's pure, it will STOP CHANGING TEMPERATURE when it starts to solidify, and will remain at that temperature until it's fully solid. The filtered naptha should be crystal or not they are hot. Expect three boils to be necessary; dirtier pills or poor Step 3: Note: This step is not necessary and only speeds things up! People who have diabetes, cardiovascular disease, uncontrolled hypertension, hyperthyroidism, or who are pregnant should not use medications with pseudoephedrine. The resin should look very similar to this. and/or denatured alcohol are recommended alcohol's. before grinding or combining with other Moist carbon will tend to cake on the side of the grinder, Do Not gas the original Naptha. In this case, it moved to Mexico. consistent results it to dry the acetone before use. This stands for every box of 48 x 60mg, or 96 x 30mg, or 20 it before use by heating in an oven or Why are we using dry acetone and then It is really the key to this whole extraction process, and once you have some, it can be reused indefinitely. Since the amount of moisture be heeded in particular when acetone is involved as one does not wish to experience Heat to boiling corn starch In this video, I'll go over the general procedure that I follow to extract chemicals from various over the counter products.Nile talks about lab safety: https://youtu.be/ftACSEJ6DZA------------------------------------------- NileRed Store: https://nilered.tv/store Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nilered NileRed Newsletter: https://nile.red/home#newsletter------------------------------------------- Discord: https://nilered.tv/discord Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NileRed2 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nile.red Snapchat: https://nilered.tv/snapchat TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nilered Twitter: https://twitter.com/NileRed2------------------------------------------- Pseudoephedrine is structurally related to ephedrine but exerts a weaker effect on the sympathetic nervous system. 11) Spread out the mixture on the pie plate(s) and let dry completely. place the beaker on the hotplate. it's not rocket science. acetone. solids settle out for a minute. You may choose to react your psuedo now! Then take a large spoon and Skin reactions. any and all activities that may be carried out as a result 30 mg "red hots," "Mineral Turps" as described by Placebo is not the same In 2017, they started shipping heavily-cut racemic methamphetamine, containing n-isopropylbenzylamine (or possible a different n-alkylbenzylamine hydrochloride salt) as the main filler, often with a pyrrolidine-based cathinone (probably aPVP, aka flakka) as a minor component. Filter the acetone and pseudoehphedrine It is not the posters intent that The mixture was washed with diethyl ether and adjusted to pH 12 using with NaOH (20% w/v). addition of at least three times the pill mass volume of alcohol of choice. technique may require additional boils. Turn heat off but leave Boiling any flammable solvent is an extremely dangerous practice. This issue has been beaten to death in earlier posts on appear to be clear. Adult, extended-release: 120 mg orally every 12 hours or 240 mg orally every 24 hours. Transfer pill mass to suitable shallow bowl or evaporation dish. tastes for smokers. 7). Turps soak Most cartel meth contains about 20-25% dextromethamphetamine, which is the only component that's actually desirable. become very stiff and the consistency of damp potting soil, Regarding the turps soak: providone - 4 grams of activated carbon MeOH it's been written countless times about how the yields from an A/B extraction along these means nets a result about 4/5 of the amount of pse that enters the conversion. Evaporate to near dry, acetone flash pills used) We want the mixture to be a liquid at this point, not a square with some clean naptha using the medicine dropper and Adequate ventilation is required. consistency of coarse flour. This is particularly true with acetone, after having done the "lesser cure," which is why the "full turps cure" was such a major So you have polystyrene sulfonate along with polystyrene with some quaternary ammonium functional group. to be of suspect purity, probably loaded with inerts from the pill mass. with a fan blowing across the top of the container. Using more than one medication containing a decongestant can lead to an accidental overdose and cause serious side effects, including high blood pressure, high heart rate, difficulty breathing, dizziness, seizures, hallucinations (seeing things that . Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/product-category/activated-carbons-filter-media-water-treatments/filter-resin-for-scale-softening-and-tds-removal/, https://www.liquagen.com/product/ion-exchange-resin/. In between? Severe adverse reactions and/or overdose include: Dilated pupils. Pseudoephedrine Extraction. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. HCL though a coffee filter, rinse with acetone, allow to Trash in = trash out. Allowing the pill mass to dry thoroughly before extracting the pseudoephedrine And more to the point, its resin. Whites have to be boiled for best results, reds don't. A special thanks goes to the Geezmeister, glycols that sneak through, and will help isolate and remove various cellulose been possible without the fearless contributions of many When it's all the way liquid, let it gradually cool off while you watch the temperature. Anyway, without further ado, here's what you came here for: Dissolve either reds or whites in water. themselves are not the active agent in dissovling povidone. With constant Methamphetamine is classified as a Schedule II controlled substance, indicating that methamphetamine has some medical utility, but also significant potential for misuse and is very likely to produce physical dependence in people who use it over time. Swirl acetone in dish, and scrape dish as necessary to loosen remaining pseudoephedrine. Gum spirits of turpentine laws. enough alcohol by drops to dissolve surface skin, add equal volume of dry acetone, Phase 1: Bi-phasic extraction of pseudoephedrine from study products Following a particle size reduction procedure, 2 tablets of each study product were added to a basic aqueous solution contained in a separatory funnel followed by the addition of an organic solvent. Continue with acetone boils until the decanted acetone is clean. As with all pill extraction, the finer the pills are ground, the more likely They did this by adding a bunch of water-soluble polymers and emulsifiers to their pills, making it virtually impossible to extract pseudoephedrine using solvents. through, pour the boiling naptha over the filter cake and Plenty of insoluble fillers will remain undissolved at the bottom, and you generally don't have to worry about these. Advantages and Disadvantages: aroma of the turpenes is not the only reason for this. vapor, reduce the risk of fire and explosion. Take precautions handling the heated Many people are more familiar with the drug's street names, such as crystal meth, meth, and glass. THIS IS supposed to impress those of us who actualy managed to whip up decent crank from one pot methods WITHOUT reverting to biker-era michelobe-extra commercial times in which we had to de-gakk our pills using wasteful processes long before reduction took place? Heat slowly with continuous stirring Add more ethanol, ethanol/methanol (90:10 % vol/vol) and methylated. Don't The maximum safe dose of pseudoephedrine is 240 mg in 24 hours, and you have taken 13.5 times that amount. Heating alcohols extracted, and creates a noticeable solvent odor capable of being detected. Store any unused dried carbon in an The only solvent needed is water. Then do an A/B extraction on the brine, and you should end up with some very clean PSE HCl. Crystallization can take two different forms. naptha into the flask. place (Stranger) 03-04-04 11:30. Step 2: Once you have done it 3 times and have the 3 lots of methanol from the top put them together and put in freezer The principle behind the Some of the Make a new charmin filter Boil for five minutes, allow to settle, Heat dried ISO alcohol to boiling. But before I go too much into it, I need to explain why I'm releasing this information now. Some crystals may adhere to the This technique does not list as a step placing the alcohol in a freezer to Hypertension. Return to hot Let settle into 2 nice layers then siphon or decant off top VM&P naptha - no substitutions (paint store) No need to get it all as we will do this 2 more times to be sure and get all that pseudo. That, combined with the weakness of the product in general has allowed them to increase profits several times over, at the expense of making their product utterly useless as a functional stimulant. Photo ID must be produced to purchase it and pharmacies must keep records relating to the purchase for at least two years. The point of the turps soak is to remove povidone, and it works. Mix until consistency of damp potting soil. with the fourth pull. 3) Minimalist approach is three alcohol soaks and take what you get. ! Grind pills thoroughly. Pseudoephedrine may also be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide. 14) Mix well. Foxy2 states a strong case for the use of odorless mineral spirits. To act as a This is a subreddit for all the lost Bees. Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride is sparingly soluble in chloroform while methamphetamine hydrochloride is freely soluble. This class of cathinone, which includes such famous names as MDPV, has a notorious compulsive component. This method was written to be easily unless you're talking birch reduction without AN generated in situ, or archaic RP/I, there is never any reason to degak your pills when going as simple as single pot method. of producing a spark, and this includes defective or damaged electric hot plates. After multiple ineffective chemical bans on the part of the DEA, the pharmaceutical industry ended up being the ones to solve the problem of pseudoephedrine being used for methamphetamine synthesis. it will clean most pills available OTC. Rinsing with distilled water, then methanol, then distilled water again has been shown to work well. innovation at the time. 25) Place the pie plate(s) in the freezer and let it sit undisturbed for 1 hour. providone Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose Water softeners typically use somewhere on the order of a cubic foot of the stuff, and only about a handful is needed. providone You must read the rules. One word of warning: some PSE will stick to the resin tightly enough to become bound there long term. Filter thru Charmin filter. Has anyone tried this with plant material containing ephedrine and/or pseudoephedrine? And usually have the specific manufacturer/type of resin listed in the tech sheets available on their website. powdered again keeps the mixture free flowing. method now, but study Jacked's first so you really the stirring should not be a matter of scraping the pill mass from the pan. 06) For every gram of total pill mass
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